Budget and Capital Committee
December 9, 2003
11:30 a.m.
Scott Heyman Conference Room


Present:  P. Penniman, M. Koplinka-Loehr, N. Schuler, T. Todd
Legislators:  T. Joseph, D. Kiefer
Excused: R. Booth
Staff:  D. Squires, S. Whicher, W. Skinner, P. Meskill, P. Carey, A. Fitzpatrick
Guests:  R. Gearing, TCAT
 

Called to Order

 Mr. Penniman called the meeting to order at 11:33 p.m.

Changes to the Agenda

 The following resolution(s) were added to the agenda:

 Appropriation from Contingent Fund - Environmental Health (Neighborhood Notification law - Cornell Cooperative Extension
 Authorization of New York State Department of Transportation Master Mass Transportation Capital Construction Project Agreement -  TCAT
 Authorizing 2004 Federal Section 5309 Grant - TCAT

Approval of Minutes of November 12, 2003

 It was MOVED by Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, seconded by Mrs. Schuler, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the minutes of November 12, 2003 as submitted.  MINUTES APPROVED.

Chair's Report

 Mr. Penniman had no report.

Finance Director's Report

 Mr. Squires reported on sales tax revenues received to date and said they exceed the amount budgeted.  He expressed confidence in the estimate included in the 2004 budget based on the data he has received to date.   Mr. Squires said he received communication from the State announcing a sales tax holiday on clothing will be offered from January 26 thru February 1st.  The bulletin lists those counties who are and who are not participating.  He said Tompkins County, along with the City of Ithaca, will be participating.  He noted the only contiguous counties that will not be participating are Tioga and Cayuga.  The State forwarded an analysis on the impact of exempting clothing from the tax base during the period of 2000 to 2001.  He said he was surprised to learn there was $10 million in clothing sales in Tompkins County during that time.  Mr. Squires said it was estimated that the sales tax exemption that was in place at that time would have cost the County $550,000.  It now appears that amount was closer to $1 million.

 Mr. Squires also reported on the New York State Retirement payment of $2,450,000 and said of that amount, $1.9 million came directly from Tompkins County.  He also spoke of the General Fund cash balance and said he expects TCAT will repay its State Aid advance in full within the next day.  The County earned $8,000 on that advance of funds.

 Mr. Squires updated the Committee on the balance of the Contingent Fund.  At the present time the balance is $476,632; however, he expects outstanding claims to reduce that amount to $350,000.

Report from the County Administrator

 Mr. Whicher provided members of the Committee with copies of the tax distribution table.  He said although the Legislature adopted a 15.7 tax rate increase, the actual change in tax rates for individual municipalities may be different.  Depending upon what they do with their sales tax credits, workman's compensation, and election chargebacks, those towns that have State lands try to maximize their State land collections by using their sales tax credits only for the County.  The effect of that is an increase in levy because the sales tax is relatively flat and has a corresponding dramatic increase in the percentage increase in County rate.   Mr. Whicher said the budget process will be revamped during 2004 in order to modernize the way Tompkins County creates and presents budget information.

 It was MOVED by Mrs. Schuler, seconded by Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO.   - APPROPRIATION FROM CONTINGENT FUND - ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH (NEIGHBOR NOTIFICATION LAW)
- CORNELL COOPERATIVE EXTENSION

 WHEREAS, the Neighbor Notification Law became effective January 1, 2003, and
 WHEREAS, the Environmental Health Division of the Public Health Department and Department of Weights and Measures has been charged with overseeing and enforcing the law, and

 WHEREAS, no funds were allocated in the 2003 budget process to cover the costs incurred for implementation of this law, including costs incurred by the Cornell Cooperative Extension for educational outreach training expenses, and
WHEREAS, Cornell Cooperative Extension has performed the educational outreach services related to the Neighbor Notification Law as requested, and
WHEREAS, the total cost of these services for 2003 is $2,975.38, now therefore be it
 RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Consumer and Community Affairs and the Budget and Capital Committees, That the Director of Finance is hereby authorized and directed to make a budget   appropriation to reimburse Cornell Cooperative Extension for the direct cost of Neighbor Notification Law education and outreach:
 FROM:  A1990.54440 Contingent Fund  $2,975.38
 TO:  A2981.54400 Program Expense  $2,975.38
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 It was MOVED by Ms. Schuler, seconded by Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO. 288 - APPROPRIATION FROM CONTINGENT FUND FOR TERMINAL PAY - FINANCE DEPARTMENT

 WHEREAS, the Finance Department had the employment of one employee, Cindy Day, resign, effective September 26, 2003, at a cost of $4,320 for terminal pay, and
 WHEREAS, the Fiscal Policy of Tompkins County allows for terminal pay from the Contingent Fund, now therefore be it
 RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Government Operations and Budget and Capital Committees, That the Director of Finance appropriate a total of $4,320 for terminal pay for Cindy Day,
 RESOLVED, further, That the money be distributed to the following accounts:

FROM:   A1990.54440 Contingent Fund $4,320
TO:   A1315.51000 Regular Pay  $3,402
   A1315.58800 Fringes   $   918
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 It was MOVED by Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, seconded by Mrs. Schuler, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO. 274 -  AUTHORIZATION TO DISBURSE FUNDS - COUNTY ADMINISTRATION

 RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Budget and Capital Committee, That the County Administrator be and hereby is authorized and directed to disburse all appropriated funds up to the amount of the appropriation included in the 2004 budget, provided that whenever a contract is required funds will be disbursed in accordance with the terms of said agreement.
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 It was MOVED by Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, seconded by Mr. Todd, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO. 276 - DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY TO AUTHORIZE CERTAIN TAX AND SOLID WASTE FEE REFUNDS UNDER $500

 WHEREAS, Section 556 of the Real Property Tax Law authorized a tax levying body to delegate the payment of tax refunds due to a clerical error of an unlawful entry (an unlawful entry is any information on the tax roll that violates the Real Property Tax Law), and
 WHEREAS, Solid Waste Fee refunds are authorized under Resolution No. 181 of 1996, and
 WHEREAS, it is the opinion of the Budget and Capital Committee, that such delegation would be more efficient in processing said refunds and therefore beneficial to the taxpayer, now therefore be it
 RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Budget and Capital Committee, That the County Director of Assessment shall transmit refund recommendations to the County Administrator,
 RESOLVED, further, That the County Administrator is hereby authorized to make payments of any refunds as if the Tompkins County Legislature had performed this audit in compliance with Paragraph 1-7 of Section 566, of the Real Property Tax Law,
 RESOLVED, further, That any refund of $500 or more must be approved by the Tompkins County Legislature pursuant to Paragraph 8(b) of Section 556 of the Real Property Tax Law,
 RESOLVED, further, That the County Administrator shall transmit on or before the 15th day of each month a report to the Tompkins County Legislature of all the refunds processed,
 RESOLVED, further, That this resolution shall only be in effect during the calendar year 2004.
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 It was MOVED by Ms. Schuler, seconded by Mr. Todd, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO. 275 - DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY TO AUTHORIZE CERTAIN TAX ROLL CORRECTIONS AND TAX REFUNDS UNDER $2500

WHEREAS, Section 554 of the Real Property Tax Law authorizes a tax-levying body to delegate the correction of tax rolls due to a clerical error, an error in essential fact, or an unlawful entry (an unlawful entry is any information on the tax roll that violates the Real Property Tax Law), and
 WHEREAS, Section 556 of the Real Property Tax Law authorizes a tax-levying body to delegate the payment of tax refunds due to a clerical error, an error in essential fact, or an unlawful entry, and
 WHEREAS, it is the opinion of the Budget and Capital Committee, that such delegation would be more efficient in processing said refunds and therefore beneficial to the taxpayer, now therefore be it
 RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Budget and Capital Committee, That the County Director of Assessment shall transmit corrections and/or refund recommendations to the County Administrator,
 RESOLVED, further, That the County Administrator is hereby authorized to make Tax Roll corrections and /or payments of any refunds as if the Tompkins County Legislature had performed this audit in compliance with Paragraph 1-8 of Section 554 and 1-7 of Section 566 of the Real Property Tax Law,
 RESOLVED, further, That any Tax Roll correction and/or refund of $2500 or more must be approved by the Tompkins County Legislature pursuant to Paragraph 9(a) and Paragraph 8(a) of Section 556 of the Real Property Tax Law,
 RESOLVED, further, That the County Administrator shall transmit on or before the 15th day of each month a report to the Tompkins County Legislature of all the corrections and refunds processed,
 RESOLVED, further, That this resolution shall only be in effect during the calendar year 2004.
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 It was MOVED by Mr. Todd, seconded by Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO. 283 - APPROPRIATION FROM CONTINGENT FUND FOR TERMINAL AND REPLACEMENT PAY AT THE SHERIFF’S OFFICE
 
 WHEREAS, the Sheriff’s Office had an employee, David Russell, resign effective September 3, 2003, at a cost of $515; Michael Day, retire effective September 27, 2003, at a cost of $10,874; Randolph Haus, vacate his position effective October 10, 2003, at a cost of $2,669; and Mark Dresser, retire effective November 5, 2003, at a cost of $8,743 for terminal pay,
 WHEREAS, the Sheriff’s Office has employees who were on disability or worker’s compensation and unable to perform their duties, and
 WHEREAS, the Fiscal Policy of Tompkins County allows for terminal pay and replacement pay for employees who have been out longer than two months from the Contingent Fund, now therefore be it
 RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Public Safety Committee and the Budget and Capital Committees, That the Director of Finance appropriate a total of  $22,801 for terminal pay and $55,262 for replacement pay for employees who were on disability or worker’s compensation encompassing the period of July 1, 2003 – December 31, 2003, to the following accounts in the Sheriff's budget:

APPROPRIATION:

FROM:  A1990.54440  Contingent Fund $78,063
TO:  A3150.51000406  Regular Pay 14,034
  A3150.58800  Fringe 3,789
  A3112.51000417  Senior Criminal 6,884
  A3112.58800  Fringe 1,859
  A3113.51000419  Regular Pay 40,549
  A3113.58800  Fringe 10,948
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 It was MOVED by Mr. Todd, seconded by Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO. 284 - APPROPRIATION FROM CONTINGENT FUND FOR REPLACEMENT PAY AT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY’S OFFICE

 WHEREAS, the District Attorney’s Office has an employee who was disabled and thus unable to perform her duties for more than two months, specifically, from Monday, May 12, 2003, through Friday, August 15, 2003, returning to work on Monday, August 18, 2003, and
 WHEREAS, the District Attorney’s Office hired a replacement employee  for the period from Monday, July 14, 2003, through Friday, August 15, 2003, receiving gross pay of $2,761.55 during that time, and
 WHEREAS, the Fiscal Policy of Tompkins County (section 5.03[B][2]) allows for replacement pay for employees who have been out of work and replaced under such circumstances, now therefore be it
RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Public Safety and Budget and Capital Committees, That the Director of Finance appropriate a total of $2,761.55 for replacement pay encompassing the period of July 14, 2003, through August 15, 2003,
 RESOLVED, further, That the funds be appropriated from and distributed to the following accounts:

FROM: A1990.54440 Contingent Fund $2,761.55

TO: A1165.51000 Regular Pay $2,174.45
 A1165.58800 Fringe $   587.10
 TOTAL  $2,761.55
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Discussion - Legislative Goals of Resolution No. 241 - Procedure for Filling Vacant positions

 Mr. Whicher said he would like to have a discussion about the process for implementing Resolution No. 241.  Following that discussion he would bring draft procedures to the departments heads for review and then to the Legislature.  He said generally when a vacancy is created in a department, that department reviews its structure and goals and then reorganizes based on those goals, existing staff, and resources for funds.  In many cases positions are reclassified to lower-level positions or hours are reduced during that period of time.  There was discussion about creating a streamlined process that would follow the former Fiscal Management Committee's procedure.  As well as whether these requests would be considered in special meetings or regular committee meetings.  Mr. Joseph said departments should try to put requests through the regular committee process; however, in cases where urgent action is needed the Legislature will consider acting at a special meeting.  A question was raised during the discussion relative to whether grant-funded positions should be exempt from this procedure; members felt those positions should be exempt.

 It was MOVED by Mr. Penniman, seconded by Ms. Schuler, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to amend the start of this action to March 1, 2004 in order to give the County Administrator time to develop a clear procedure for implementing this resolution.   Mr. Whicher will bring a draft set of procedures to the next Committee meeting.

 It was MOVED Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, seconded by Ms. Schuler, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO. 277 - SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE TOMPKINS CONSOLIDATED  AREA TRANSIT (TCAT) CONSOLIDATION AGREEMENT

WHEREAS, the City of Ithaca, Tompkins County, and Cornell University (the “parties”) entered into a Consolidation Agreement dated April 1, 1998, that formed Tompkins Consolidated Area Transit (“TCAT”), and
WHEREAS, this agreement was amended in November, 2002, and
WHEREAS, the Consolidation Agreement states in Section 8.1(c): “At any time during the sixth (6th) calendar year of this agreement, any party may give written notice to the other parties that it will withdraw from the joint venture without forfeiture of its share in the assets of TCAT, such withdrawal to be effective at the end of the seventh (7th) calendar year after the effective date of this agreement”, and
WHEREAS, the TCAT Board voted on October 30, 2003, to request the parties to amend the Consolidation Agreement to change the dates by which such notice of withdrawal can be given to the other parties, and
WHEREAS, the parties to the Consolidation Agreement agree that such change is needed for the reasons set out in the TCAT Board’s resolution, which is attached hereto, now therefore be it
RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Budget and Capital Committee, That in consideration of the promises and mutual covenants contained herein, the parties agree as follows:
1.  The first sentence of Section 8.1(c) of the Consolidation Agreement is amended to read as
        follows:
“At any time prior to June 30, 2005, any party may give written notice to the other
parties that it will withdraw from the joint venture without forfeiture of its share in the
assets of TCAT, such withdrawal to be effective on January 1, 2006.”
2.  All other provisions of the Consolidation Agreement shall remain unchanged and in full
       force and effect.
3. This Amendment to the Consolidation Agreement shall become effective as of the date it
is fully executed by all parties.
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 It was MOVED Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, seconded by Mr. Penniman, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO. 278 - AUTHORIZATION OF NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION MASTER MASS TRANSPORTATION  CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AGREEMENT - TOMPKINS CONSOLIDATED AREA TRANSIT

WHEREAS, pursuant to State Finance Law Section 89-c, the New York State Legislature authorizes mass transportation grants for capital projects that are funded with ten percent up to one-hundred percent State funding, and
WHEREAS, the New York State Department of Transportation desires to execute a Master Mass Transportation Capital Construction Project Agreement with Tompkins County, on behalf of Tompkins Consolidated Area Transit (TCAT), to rehabilitate/renovate TCAT’s Administration and Operations Facility (PIN 3821.52.001) and to continue planning and design of the City Center Project (PIN 3821.54.001), and
WHEREAS, the New York State Department of Transportation has authorized the payment of $563,000 in State funds without any local share needed to reimburse costs of these capital projects by TCAT, and
WHEREAS, these projects were approved by the TCAT Board of Directors and included in the current TCAT Capital Budget, now therefore be it
RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Budget and Capital Committee, That the Tompkins County Legislature authorizes the Master Mass Transportation Capital Construction Project Agreement be executed by the County, on behalf of TCAT.
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 It was MOVED Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, seconded by Mr. Todd, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO. 279 - AUTHORIZING 2004 FEDERAL SECTION 5309 GRANT -  TOMPKINS CONSOLIDATED AREA TRANSIT

 WHEREAS, the Secretary of the United States Department of Transportation is authorized to make grants for mass transportation projects pursuant to Section 5309 of Chapter 53, Title 49 of the United States Code (formerly Section 9, Federal Transit Act of 1964), and
 WHEREAS, the County of Tompkins is the designated recipient of Section 5309 urban formula transit funds and will apply on behalf of Tompkins Consolidated Area Transit (TCAT) to receive and use said funds, and
 WHEREAS, the County of Tompkins agrees that TCAT shall function as a Grantee under the Federal Grant Agreement to receive and dispense the Federal assistance funds described in this Grant and that TCAT, as the Grantee, shall assume all responsibilities for fulfilling all Federal terms and conditions as set forth in this Grant, and
 WHEREAS, the County of Tompkins desires to submit a request for a grant of funds to the Federal Transit Administration, in the amount of $457,778 for the City Center Project, to design, renovate, and replace passenger shelters and to provide ADA-compliant pedestrian amenities in Downtown Ithaca, and
WHEREAS, the project was approved by the Ithaca-Tompkins County Transportation Council and included in the 2001 - 2006 Transportation Improvement Program, as amended, now therefore be it
 RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Budget and Capital Committee, That the Tompkins County Legislature authorizes the County Contracts Coordinator to execute and file an application on behalf of the County of Tompkins with the United States Department of Transportation and the New York State Department of Transportation for the 2004 Section 5309 Grant,
 RESOLVED, further, That the County Contracts Coordinator is authorized to execute a supplemental grant agreement on behalf of the County of Tompkins with the United States Department of Transportation and TCAT to formally designate TCAT as the Grantee for this grant and that the County is not in any manner subject to or responsible for the terms and conditions of this Grant Agreement and is a party to this Grant Agreement only to assign the right to receive and dispense Federal funds to TCAT as Grantee.
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 It was MOVED Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, seconded by Mr. Todd, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO. 294 - AUTHORIZE APPLICATION AND AGREEMENT FOR FEDERAL  SECTION 5311 AND NEW YORK STATE TRANSPORTATION FUNDING FOR A CAPITAL PROJECT TO PURCHASE FOUR BUSES AND ANCILLARY TRANSIT EQUIPMENT FOR RURAL TOMPKINS CONSOLIDATED AREA TRANSIT (TCAT) ROUTES

WHEREAS, the New York State Department of Transportation (NYSDOT) has requested capital project proposals eligible to use federal rural transit funding be submitted by counties, cities and Indian reservations for 2004 and 2005, and
WHEREAS, Tompkins County is submitting a request for a grant of funds to the New York State Department of Transportation, pursuant to Section 5311, Title 49, United States Code, for a capital project to purchase: four 40 ft. heavy duty, low-floor transit buses, twenty-two mobile radios, four bus shelters and fifteen bus stop signs on behalf of Tompkins Consolidated Area Transit (TCAT), and
WHEREAS, TCAT rural routes serve the Towns of Lansing, Danby, Ithaca, Groton, Lansing, Newfield, Enfield, Dryden and Caroline and the City of Ithaca in Tompkins County and the Towns of Richford, Berkshire and Newark Valley in Tioga County, and
WHEREAS, the Project funding sources are as follows:
 Federal Transit Authority Sec 5311  $        987,040
 NYSDOT   $        123,380
 TCAT   $        123,380
 Total   $     1,233,800
 
WHEREAS, Tompkins County and the State of New York are entering into an Agreement which authorizes the undertaking of the Project and payment of Federal and State shares of the project, and the local share of the project is incorporated in TCAT’s capital budget for 2005, now therefore be it
RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Budget and Capital Committee, That the Tompkins County Legislature authorizes said application and agreement for this project and that the Contracts Coordinator/Risk Manager is authorized to sign the application and
1. Any and all Agreements between Tompkins County and the State of New York for the above named Project;
2. Any and all Agreements between Tompkins County and any third party subcontractors necessary to complete the project, if applicable;
3. Any Municipality/Vendor Contracts for the purchase and or installation of vehicles and equipment.
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 It was MOVED Mr. Koplinka-Loehr, seconded by Ms. Schuler, and unanimously adopted by voice vote by members present, to approve the following resolution and submit to the full Legislature:

RESOLUTION NO. 280 - AUTHORIZING 2004 FEDERAL SECTION 5307 GRANT -  TOMPKINS CONSOLIDATED AREA TRANSIT (TCAT)

 WHEREAS, the Secretary of the United States Department of Transportation is authorized to make grants for mass transportation projects pursuant to Section 5307 of Chapter 53, Title 49 of the United States Code (formerly Section 9, Federal Transit Act of 1964), and
 WHEREAS, the County of Tompkins is the designated recipient of Section 5307 urban formula transit funds and will apply on behalf of Tompkins Consolidated Area Transit (TCAT) to receive and use said funds, and
 WHEREAS, the County of Tompkins agrees that TCAT shall function as a Grantee under the Federal Grant Agreement to receive and dispense the Federal assistance funds described in this Grant and that TCAT, as the Grantee, shall assume all responsibilities for fulfilling all Federal terms and conditions as set forth in this Grant, and
 WHEREAS, the County of Tompkins desires to submit a request for a grant of funds to the Federal Transit Administration, in the amount of $660,200 to be used for operating assistance and capital projects for 2004 as approved by the Ithaca-Tompkins County Transportation Council and included in the 2004 - 2006 Transportation Improvement Program, as amended, now therefore be it
 RESOLVED, on recommendation of the Budget and Capital Committee, That the Tompkins County Legislature authorizes the County Contracts Coordinator to execute and file an application on behalf of the County of Tompkins with the United States Department of Transportation and the New York State Department of Transportation for the 2004 Section 5307 Grant,
 RESOLVED, further, That the County Contracts Coordinator is authorized to execute a supplemental grant agreement on behalf of the County of Tompkins with the United States Department of Transportation and TCAT to formally designate TCAT as the Grantee for this grant and that the County is not in any manner subject to or responsible for the terms and conditions of this Grant Agreement and is a party to this Grant Agreement only to assign the right to receive and dispense Federal funds to TCAT as Grantee.
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Discussion - Mortgage Tax
 
 Mr. Whicher said in order to move this item forward there needs to be a partnership agreement.  He said Assemblywoman Lifton does not want to move forward with this until there is a resolution by the Legislature.  Mr. Penniman said some members have suggested that the mortgage tax has nothing to do with TCAT and that question needs to be resolved.

 Mr. Whicher said in order to move this forward at the State level of the partners need to agree.  Mr. Joseph said he feels there are different directions the County could go in and that the County could move unilaterally but said he would like to get it for TCAT.   Mr. Whicher said the County has a lot of choices for which to use these monies.  It can be used for almost any kind of infrastructure work, such as the communications project, the Public Safety Building, highway improvements, capital projects, or transit.   He said the Law provides a great deal of flexibility.

 There was discussion about what steps should take place first.  Mr. Whicher suggested that TCAT present a resolution, followed by the partners.  Ms. Kiefer said recently had a conversation with Assemblywoman Lifton.  Ms. Kiefer said the County would be well-advised to put in a resolution requesting one-quarter percent and call it mass transit.  She feels it would be a mistake to guarantee TCAT 100 percent of the funds.

 Comments were made that internal disagreements about how these funds should be used first needs to be resolved.  Mr. Joseph suggested the full Legislature hold an executive session to discuss this.  He said he will speak to Mr. Wood, County Attorney, about whether this item could be discussed during an executive session.  In the meantime, Legislators will meet to draft specific proposals.
 
 Mr. Gearing stated he has no specific knowledge about anyone who is concerned about this.  He said he would not, however, be surprised if the transit systems in the other 28 New York State counties that get all of this mortgage recording tax, aren't concerned that a county with a transit system is not doing the same thing.

Adjournment

 The meeting adjourned at 1:16 p.m.
 

Respectfully submitted by Michelle Pottorff, Legislature Office
 
 

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